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We're gonna be better bc we cant be any worse...

  • That is seriously the argument used on Bangs' show by him, his nerd herd, and the callers.

    WR position is gonna be better - "because everyone returns so they cant be any worse"
    OL position is gonna be better - "because they were horrendous last year and cannot be any worse"
    QB position is gonna be better - "because Newton started last year so they cant be any worse"

    Nothing was said about returning TALENT, incoming TALENT, returners that showed steady improvement during the season last year and are primed for breakout performances, or the coaching staffs ability to develop guys and produce and effective gameplan.

    I knew it was bad - but when you're hanging your hat on the "they cannot be any worse, therefore they will be better" line of thinking you know your team is in big trouble.

    I also found out by listening today that Teddy Bridgewater cannot throw the ball - Ummmkay.

    I found out that UK nearly TIED UL last year - even though they conveniently forget the 70yd gain that probably was going for a TD that got called back when the douche in the stands blew a whistle - and they conveniently forget the Safety for Intentional Grounding that wasn't called. The game wasn't close. UL dominated from start to finish and the only reason UK was even close was because of A) a FAN and B) an egregious refereeing error.

    Lastly, I found out that we think that Eli Rogers (like our 4th or 5th best receiver) is the next coming of Jerry Rice and cannot ever stop talking about his greatness.

    Thanks for stepping up the comedy Bangsy. If its always like it was today, I may start listening more often.

    Feesh

  • His butthurt after the game will be legendary.

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  • Bear in mind, Radcliffe's inexplicable drop in the end zone of Teddy's laser while scrambling.

    In many ways, this is reminiscent of the "bigger, stronger, faster" claims when Coach Richie showed up and got his ass owned.

    Personally, I am hoping for that sort of result. I liked the blank, uncomprehending looks on their coaches' faces.

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    senore

  • Feesh said...

    That is seriously the argument used on Bangs' show by him, his nerd herd, and the callers.

    WR position is gonna be better - 'because everyone returns so they cant be any worse'
    OL position is gonna be better - 'because they were horrendous last year and cannot be any worse'
    QB position is gonna be better - 'because Newton started last year so they cant be any worse'

    Nothing was said about returning TALENT, incoming TALENT, returners that showed steady improvement during the season last year and are primed for breakout performances, or the coaching staffs ability to develop guys and produce and effective gameplan.

    I knew it was bad - but when you're hanging your hat on the 'they cannot be any worse, therefore they will be better' line of thinking you know your team is in big trouble.

    I also found out by listening today that Teddy Bridgewater cannot throw the ball - Ummmkay.

    I found out that UK nearly TIED UL last year - even though they conveniently forget the 70yd gain that probably was going for a TD that got called back when the douche in the stands blew a whistle - and they conveniently forget the Safety for Intentional Grounding that wasn't called. The game wasn't close. UL dominated from start to finish and the only reason UK was even close was because of A) a FAN and B) an egregious refereeing error.

    Lastly, I found out that we think that Eli Rogers (like our 4th or 5th best receiver) is the next coming of Jerry Rice and cannot ever stop talking about his greatness.

    Thanks for stepping up the comedy Bangsy. If its always like it was today, I may start listening more often.

    What I don't understand is how Max Smith can be so amazing and yet he couldn't beat out Morgan Newton last year and wouldn't have played a down all season if Newton hadn't gotten injured. I also don't get how their DL is going to be so good after our miserable OL dominated them last year. Didn't we average something like 5 yards per carry in our game last season?

    cardinalfan123

  • Feesh said...

    That is seriously the argument used on Bangs' show by him, his nerd herd, and the callers.

    It has not been all that long ago uk was dead last in division 1. Freakin' dead last in division 1. You guys are now commanding respect of NOT being dead last in division 1.

    Relax, blue hairs. Sure Louisville is gaining momentum in a big boy sport and uk isn't. But at least you haven't hit rock bottom again. Not yet anyway.

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  • Matty bangs will be at Wagner's pharmacy from about noon to 2:00 pm for a pregame show. We may have to show him some cardinal love.

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    If you arent down with that, I got two words for ya!!!!

    bobdacahdfan ●

  • Will Matt be in the Hemerroid section?

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    senore

  • Why were you listening to that DB?

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  • Max Smith was Freshmen and Morgan new the system. Just an FYI, Cobble and Rumph didn't start the game. .

    golfnut51

  • Feesh said...

    That is seriously the argument used on Bangs' show by him, his nerd herd, and the callers.

    WR position is gonna be better - "because everyone returns so they cant be any worse" OL position is gonna be better - "because they were horrendous last year and cannot be any worse" QB position is gonna be better - "because Newton started last year so they cant be any worse"

    Nothing was said about returning TALENT, incoming TALENT, returners that showed steady improvement during the season last year and are primed for breakout performances, or the coaching staffs ability to develop guys and produce and effective gameplan.

    I knew it was bad - but when you're hanging your hat on the "they cannot be any worse, therefore they will be better" line of thinking you know your team is in big trouble.

    I also found out by listening today that Teddy Bridgewater cannot throw the ball - Ummmkay.

    I found out that UK nearly TIED UL last year - even though they conveniently forget the 70yd gain that probably was going for a TD that got called back when the douche in the stands blew a whistle - and they conveniently forget the Safety for Intentional Grounding that wasn't called. The game wasn't close. UL dominated from start to finish and the only reason UK was even close was because of A) a FAN and B) an egregious refereeing error.

    Lastly, I found out that we think that Eli Rogers (like our 4th or 5th best receiver) is the next coming of Jerry Rice and cannot ever stop talking about his greatness.

    Thanks for stepping up the comedy Bangsy. If its always like it was today, I may start listening more often.

    The OL and DL were going to be strengths going to into last season. However, injuries, etc. decimated both (really killed the OL) prior to the UL game and they were never right all season. With most of the guys coming back and healthy, we'll be a better team. Games are won in the trenches. You can't run or pass if you can't block. We'll block a lot better this year and our DL will be the strength of the defense.

    The game will be close. UL should win but UK will hold their own on both lines and we'll be able to move the ball against you guys. Same with hold true for UL. The wildcard will be Bridgewater and if he can accurately pass the ball. Our secondary will be our weakenss and if "Bought and paid for by Cash Money Hurrt" is on target, it will hard to overcome.

    It's a win/win for us. Lose this game and Joke is gone. Win this game, we point and laugh.

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  • cardinalfan123 said...

    What I don't understand is how Max Smith can be so amazing and yet he couldn't beat out Morgan Newton last year and wouldn't have played a down all season if Newton hadn't gotten injured. I also don't get how their DL is going to be so good after our miserable OL dominated them last year. Didn't we average something like 5 yards per carry in our game last season?

    Max was a FR last year and Newton was a JR coming off multiple starts, including a few big wins on the road. Max wasn't going to be able to beat out Newton. Newton got hurt and Max got better with game experience. He's a must much accurate passer, which is what we need. Not amazing but he's developed and is significantly better than Newton.

    Our DL was banged up that game. Those guys are back and healthy. We'll be better. Not world beaters but better.

    It will be a good game.

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  • That's so cute, I love hearing the "it will be close" thing. Even allowed a moral victory for yourselves too, with the "win-win" thing. That's just precious.

    Our O-line, which was horrible the beginning of last season, allowed us to rush for 5 yds per carry against that defense that was better last year than it will be this year. Teddy and his targets are all sharper, and more comfortable in this offense, and against a weak secondary that is going to spell disaster for UK. Not to mention UK's 117th ranked scoring O versus our top 25 scoring D from last season - both bring the majority of the players back from both squads. Another mismatch. There are mismatches literally everywhere, yet it will be closer than we think. lol, UK fans.

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  • Villefan714 said...

    That's so cute, I love hearing the "it will be close" thing. Even allowed a moral victory for yourselves too, with the "win-win" thing. That's just precious.

    Our O-line, which was horrible the beginning of last season, allowed us to rush for 5 yds per carry against that defense that was better last year than it will be this year. Teddy and his targets are all sharper, and more comfortable in this offense, and against a weak secondary that is going to spell disaster for UK. Not to mention UK's 117th ranked scoring O versus our top 25 scoring D from last season - both bring the majority of the players back from both squads. Another mismatch. There are mismatches literally everywhere, yet it will be closer than we think. lol, UK fans.

    Keep clinging to stats from last year in a season where our OL was never healthy and our best DL missed significant time if it calms your nerves. We have nothing to lose. We're the underdog on the road with a lame duck coach. Kind of like you guys in Krag's last season.

    As far as moral victories..lmao. I don't want a moral victory. We either win or we don't. Moral victories only increase the chance Joke is retained. He needs to win 6 or pack his bags. Moral victories are for UL fans in the FF.

    Max and his targets also got better as the year went along. Just like "money ball" Bridgewater, Max was a FR playing his 1st minutes and he improved nicely until he got hurt. But more importantly, our OL is healthy and they are projected to be really solid. Last year, we had a make shift OL that never become cohesive due to injuries. That, in itself, will improve the offense a ton.

    Finally, keep telling yourself there are mismatches everywhere. Keep thinking that UK and UL's talent gap is huge. Keep thinking that UK is supposed to be afraid of the defense that got run by NC State and an offense that couldn't score worth a crap against UNC.

    Truth be told, the talent is pretty even as of now. You've recruited a little better than UK (not a lot like you knuckleheads would assume) but we had better recruiting during the Krag era so it evens out.

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  • How many players have you lost in the offseason again? Do you even follow your team?

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  • John Calipari said...

    Keep clinging to stats from last year in a season where our OL was never healthy and our best DL missed significant time if it calms your nerves. We have nothing to lose. We're the underdog on the road with a lame duck coach. Kind of like you guys in Krag's last season.

    As far as moral victories..lmao. I don't want a moral victory. We either win or we don't. Moral victories only increase the chance Joke is retained. He needs to win 6 or pack his bags. Moral victories are for UL fans in the FF.

    Max and his targets also got better as the year went along. Just like "money ball" Bridgewater, Max was a FR playing his 1st minutes and he improved nicely until he got hurt. But more importantly, our OL is healthy and they are projected to be really solid. Last year, we had a make shift OL that never become cohesive due to injuries. That, in itself, will improve the offense a ton.

    Finally, keep telling yourself there are mismatches everywhere. Keep thinking that UK and UL's talent gap is huge. Keep thinking that UK is supposed to be afraid of the defense that got run by NC State and an offense that couldn't score worth a crap against UNC.

    Truth be told, the talent is pretty even as of now. You've recruited a little better than UK (not a lot like you knuckleheads would assume) but we had better recruiting during the Krag era so it evens out.

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  • Any UofK fan saying their O-line will be better this year really has no clue about their own football program. Let me post the O-line roster. Tell me, who is going to be blocking? Thin doesn't even being to explain it.

    64 Max Godby Center 6-4 280 SO-SQ Louisville, Ky./Christian Academy of Louisville
    69 Matt Smith Center 6-4 296 SR-3L Louisville, Ky./St. Xavier
    58 Shaquille Love Offensive Guard 6-4 310 FR-RS Harriman, Tenn./Harriman
    67 Larry Warford Offensive Guard 6-3 343 SR-3L Richmond, Ky./Madison Central
    73 Steven Duff Offensive Guard 6-0 332 JR-SQ Louisville, Ky./Pleasure Ridge Park
    75 Zach West Offensive Guard 6-4 312 FR-RS Lexington, Ky./Lexington Christian Academy
    76 Teven Eatmon-Nared Offensive Guard 6-7 342 SO-SQ Bucyrus, Ohio/Wynford
    55 Jordan Watson Offensive Line 6-4 324 FR-HS Fayetteville, Ga./Whitewater
    57 Zach Myers Offensive Line 6-3 285 FR-HS Miamisburg, Ohio/Miamisburg
    65 Damon Sprouse Offensive Line 6-5 255 FR-HS Atlanta, Ga./Southwest DeKalb
    70 Jordan Swindle Offensive Line 6-7 310 FR-HS St. Johns, Fla./Creekside
    72 Jon Toth Offensive Line 6-5 290 FR-HS Indianapolis, Ind./Brebeuf Jesuit
    51 T.J. Jones Offensive Tackle 6-6 290 FR-HS Myrtle Beach, S.C./Myrtle Beach
    62 Tyler Davenport Offensive Tackle 6-5 318 SO-SQ Hodgenville, Ky./Larue County
    71 John Gruenschlaeger Offensive Tackle 6-11 339 FR-RS Fort Thomas, Ky./Newport Central Catholic
    74 Trevino Woods Offensive Tackle 6-5 281 SR-2L Athens, Ga./Clarke Central
    77 Darrian Miller Offensive Tackle 6-5 293 SO-1L Lexington, Ky./Bryan Station
    79 Kevin Mitchell Offensive Tackle 6-6 287 JR-2L Winston, Ga./Alexander

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  • John Calipari said...

    The OL and DL were going to be strengths going to into last season. However, injuries, etc. decimated both (really killed the OL) prior to the UL game and they were never right all season. With most of the guys coming back and healthy, we'll be a better team. Games are won in the trenches. You can't run or pass if you can't block. We'll block a lot better this year and our DL will be the strength of the defense.

    The game will be close. UL should win but UK will hold their own on both lines and we'll be able to move the ball against you guys. Same with hold true for UL. The wildcard will be Bridgewater and if he can accurately pass the ball. Our secondary will be our weakenss and if "Bought and paid for by Cash Money Hurrt" is on target, it will hard to overcome.

    It's a win/win for us. Lose this game and Joke is gone. Win this game, we point and laugh.

    Oh, I see, your OL & DL were decimated but ours were full strength. I get it.

    I guess you conveniently forgot that due to injuries we started THREE FRESHMAN on our Line most of last season and that our Junior Center only played in half the games.

    I guess you also forgot about the rash of injuries that we had on the DL. Scruggs played a half a season, Philon was out for several games, as was Brandon Dunn. BJ Butler nursed an injury and missed several games last season.

    Dude, get a grip. There are TWO TEAMS out there. Not one.

    Feesh

  • grimmcard23 said...

    Any UofK fan saying their O-line will be better this year really has no clue about their own football program. Let me post the O-line roster. Tell me, who is going to be blocking? Thin doesn't even being to explain it.

    64 Max Godby Center 6-4 280 SO-SQ Louisville, Ky./Christian Academy of Louisville 69 Matt Smith Center 6-4 296 SR-3L Louisville, Ky./St. Xavier 58 Shaquille Love Offensive Guard 6-4 310 FR-RS Harriman, Tenn./Harriman 67 Larry Warford Offensive Guard 6-3 343 SR-3L Richmond, Ky./Madison Central 73 Steven Duff Offensive Guard 6-0 332 JR-SQ Louisville, Ky./Pleasure Ridge Park 75 Zach West Offensive Guard 6-4 312 FR-RS Lexington, Ky./Lexington Christian Academy 76 Teven Eatmon-Nared Offensive Guard 6-7 342 SO-SQ Bucyrus, Ohio/Wynford 55 Jordan Watson Offensive Line 6-4 324 FR-HS Fayetteville, Ga./Whitewater 57 Zach Myers Offensive Line 6-3 285 FR-HS Miamisburg, Ohio/Miamisburg 65 Damon Sprouse Offensive Line 6-5 255 FR-HS Atlanta, Ga./Southwest DeKalb 70 Jordan Swindle Offensive Line 6-7 310 FR-HS St. Johns, Fla./Creekside 72 Jon Toth Offensive Line 6-5 290 FR-HS Indianapolis, Ind./Brebeuf Jesuit 51 T.J. Jones Offensive Tackle 6-6 290 FR-HS Myrtle Beach, S.C./Myrtle Beach 62 Tyler Davenport Offensive Tackle 6-5 318 SO-SQ Hodgenville, Ky./Larue County 71 John Gruenschlaeger Offensive Tackle 6-11 339 FR-RS Fort Thomas, Ky./Newport Central Catholic 74 Trevino Woods Offensive Tackle 6-5 281 SR-2L Athens, Ga./Clarke Central 77 Darrian Miller Offensive Tackle 6-5 293 SO-1L Lexington, Ky./Bryan Station 79 Kevin Mitchell Offensive Tackle 6-6 287 JR-2L Winston, Ga./Alexander

    Wow. Thats sad. I've heard of two of them.

    Feesh

  • golfnut51 said...

    Max Smith was Freshmen and Morgan new the system. Just an FYI, Cobble and Rumph didn't start the game. .

    Really? He new the system?

    Sure he didn't no the system?

    Maybe he nude it win the game started, butt he fourgot it by havetime.

    Good Lord dude.

    JACARD

  • JACARD said...

    Really? He new the system?

    Sure he didn't no the system?

    Maybe he nude it win the game started, butt he fourgot it by havetime.

    Good Lord dude.

    I sea what you did their.

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  • Feesh said...

    Oh, I see, your OL & DL were decimated but ours were full strength. I get it.

    I guess you conveniently forgot that due to injuries we started THREE FRESHMAN on our Line most of last season and that our Junior Center only played in half the games.

    I guess you also forgot about the rash of injuries that we had on the DL. Scruggs played a half a season, Philon was out for several games, as was Brandon Dunn. BJ Butler nursed an injury and missed several games last season.

    Dude, get a grip. There are TWO TEAMS out there. Not one.

    I have no idea about your OL and DL prior to the UK. However, I know ours was in bad shape and never rebounded. That had a lot to do with what happened last year and why our offense was stagnant. Those guys are back and totally healthy this year. We'll have a much better OL and DL than last year in this game. Maybe you guys will too. Regardless, we couldn't block Trinity and your crappy *decimated* FR OL ran for 5 yards per carry last year. We'll be much better this time around.

    Will we win? I doubt it but it will be a close game. You guys are not that much better than UK and the talent level is on a similar level.

    Like I said, I have no problem with the fact that UL is favored and should win. The only problem I have is acting like UL is the Pittsburgh Steelers when in reality you're a decent BE team.

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  • John Calipari said...

    I have no idea about your OL and DL prior to the UK. However, I know ours was in bad shape and never rebounded. That had a lot to do with what happened last year and why our offense was stagnant. Those guys are back and totally healthy this year. We'll have a much better OL and DL than last year in this game. Maybe you guys will too. Regardless, we couldn't block Trinity and your crappy *decimated* FR OL ran for 5 yards per carry last year. We'll be much better this time around.

    Will we win? I doubt it but it will be a close game. You guys are not that much better than UK and the talent level is on a similar level.

    Like I said, I have no problem with the fact that UL is favored and should win. The only problem I have is acting like UL is the Pittsburgh Steelers when in reality you're a decent BE team.

    We're not much better than UK? Most preseason polls put Louisville in the 20-40 range while UK is in the 60-80 range. At least one site had WKU ahead of you guys. We're an almost unanimous pick to win the Big East while you're an almost unanimous pick to finish last in the SEC.

    As for talent I'd like for you to name which positions you think are more or equally talented as ours.

    cardinalfan123

  • Gotcha guys. Max Smith is accurate...Teddy, not so much.

    Smith
    SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA TD INT RAT
    2011 84 153 819 54.9 5.35 4 4 103.3

    Teddy Bridgewater
    SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA TD INT SACK RAT
    2011 191 296 2129 64.5 7.19 14 12 16 134.2

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  • FRWJ said...

    Gotcha guys. Max Smith is accurate...Teddy, not so much.

    Smith SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA TD INT RAT 2011 84 153 819 54.9 5.35 4 4 103.3

    Teddy Bridgewater SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA TD INT SACK RAT 2011 191 296 2129 64.5 7.19 14 12 16 134.2

    Ouch. Teddy B was actually top 30 in the NCAA last season in completion percentage, Max Smith beat Tennessee though. So they're like, on our level of talent and coaching. lol, Paypal should stick to basketball smack.

    This whole notion that just because Joker hasn't recruited badly, almost as well as Charlie has, that they are somehow even is absurd. Not only have they lost a crap load of players this off-season, they readily admit their coach sucks out loud. We know first hand what a horrible coach can do with good talent. Charlie is making these guys crawl on their elbows for not getting stuff perfect, while Joker is having pool parties - this says everything you need to know about which "even talent" will be more prepared for battle.

    This post was edited by Villefan714 on 8/28/2012 at 4:11 PM

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  • Max Smith beat Tennessee though.

    Actually, max Smith was benched for the Tennessee game in favor of a WR.

    Gotta hand it to Joker for innovation. I wouldn't be too surprised to see Mister Cobble come running out to line up under center against us.

    Max Smith is a decoy, nothing more. But he's an SEC decoy, so that makes him among the best.

    This post was edited by Old Sport Card on 8/28/2012 at 7:08 PM

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