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making excuses for predicting such a lopsided loss to the gators. After the game he was talking about our games against Syracuse and UConn and used that as his barometer for calling the game.
Unfortunately for him what he did NOT do was use the same logic for the gators. Before the game I was telling my friends that if you look at Florida's last five games, they scored 9 points against Georgia, 14 against Missouri, 27 against Louisiana Laf, which included a punt return for a touchdown, and 23 against Jacksonville STATE. I don't even begin to know where Jacksonville State is, but only TWENTY THREE?? They did score 37 against the Noles, but only had 13 going into the fourth quarter before FSU started turning over the ball.
So if you look at the points they were putting up at the end of the year, there was good reason to be hopeful if you were a Cards fan. Even if we couldn't score a lot, I wasn't expecting a blowout by the gators because I didn't expect them to score a lot, especially with Strong as our coach.
If Herbstreit had done his homework and looked more closely at the matchup, he would have thought better about predicting such a lopsided score. As it was he looked at the jerseys and made his prediction based on that. I used to respect Herby, but not anymore. The last year he has shown his ass about what an elitist he is. Hate to break it to you Herby but you still have to line up and play the game. I love the fact that almost every single analyst had to eat crow after the game. I bet they don't make that same mistake next time.
It had nothing to do with who we lost to or how close our games were. He and most of those BCS snobs could never give UL or a team like Boise St credit because of the name on the jersey. Those idiots only think a handful of teams in college FB "deserve" anything. Look at ND. They were average or sucked most of the last 20 years but every season was "going" to be back because of the name on their Jersey. Its a complete joke.
Herbstreit picking this game was like the receptionist filling out her Tourney bracket come march. "Oh, I like orange and blue."
I watched alot of the so called experts including Herbstreit who were trying to make this matchup similar to Florida State's and NIU in terms of competition. The Big East was actually a better league than most gave it credit for (see Pitt's near miss at Notre Dame.) The Big East is 3-1 which includes Syracuse's blowout of WVU. So I'm not sure why he would use 'Cuse as a negative "barometer" considering they were in a bowl and won it fairly easily.
However, let's be honest. I'm not for sure where this Louisville team was headed after losses to UCONN and 'Cuse. Especially the defense- I didn't think they could do any better than what they were doing. There were some real question marks on those two games in addition the running game was stymied somewhat by the loss of Senorise Perry. Whatever, it was the team corrected some mistakes and looked real sharp against UF. Hopefully, it carries over to next season.
This post was edited by miltlancaster17 18 months ago
Herbster QB'ed an tOSU squad that got lucky and beat UofL by 1 point on their home field. Enough said.
You know what people outside the program didn't look at was how young this team was and how many injuries we really had this year. We basically played several games from about game 4 until the end of the season with 4 or 5 defensive linemen total. You can't play like that. In the Sugar Bowl we were healthy on the defensive line for a change and we gave them something they hadn't seen on tape - a four man front. We got pressure on the QB because they hadn't seen that on tape all year from us. See contrary to popular belief they prepared for that game, they just didn't prepare for what they hadn't seen.
Another thing was the defense took a major step forward in the Rutgers game. I know they were facing a QB that gives the ball away like folks do candy on Halloween, but you could see that young squad that was playing two true freshman LBs start to gell. The second half of that game was a harbinger of what was about to happen. It's no accident that we turned them over three times after turning Rutgers over three times. They were starting to learn their assignments and be where they were supposed to be. Additionally, this allowed them to start playing with speed, the speed we thought they had when they arrived.
It just takes doing your homework something the lazy media doesn't really care to do. Florida came to win that game the other night and simply got beat. It's ok to admit it. We have talent, it was just a matter of getting it on the field all at the same time. Just imagine this team played without two of it's best RBs, a couple of highly thought of WR, had to switch two defensive players to TE, and had to overcome so much to get where they got. This was a team effort and sets up next year to be even better. Our depth is improving and that is bad news for the talking heads out there as they need to be prepared to talk about us even more.
Herbstreit is nothing more than an ESPN pretty boy.
This post was edited by flyercard 18 months ago
You got that right.
That Home Depot stud finder may still work, but it won't find you a football prognosticator.
Good points. One of the eye opening things for the nation wide audience had to be the stat ESPN posted about the number of Florida natives on our roster. I believe it was 43? This number will probably continue to trend upward under Strong as he picked up another top player recently (4*) DT from the sunshine state. When you talk about recruiting, clearly we are bringing in the studs from Florida and none of the analysts pre-game (Fowler-Herbstreit) ever talked about this at all except for Bridgewater. That's why you can't really make a comparison of this being anything similar to Florida State vs. NIU when you have so many players on Louisville's roster from a strong talent base flowing in from Florida.
Again, the league as a whole was perceived as weak and as a laydown for the opponent. McDonough's stat at the end of game should have been looked at by Herbstreit where it showed how well the Big east does in bowl games since the BCS took place. Historically, the football conference does real well in bowl games and most recently. His whole blinders theory was "This is the SEC and it is impossible to win against them"
Classic. Wish I could up vote this again lol
YES YES YES. Many +1 votes for you. They talk about UofL losing to Syracuse.... AT a Syracuse team who just beat B12 team in a Bowl with a pretty good QB....and a game were we lost our BEST and Leading RB and screwed our gameplan forcing UofL to play from behind the whole game. But hey... I'm not being fair....herbdork usually has his face in a mirror making sure his hair is in place....so he didn't have time to watch....
UCONN, again missing Perry which I think we still didn't truly adjust to and then when we finally woke up, our STUD QB literally was playing on one leg and one arm. How would Herbie's precious Gators have fared in those close games against ULL and Mizzou (Mizzou was terrible this year) with similar injuries. How would they have done in one of those games if Gillislee had gone down etc. Wright is solid but not the same runner: Perry needs less time for a hole to develop and hes gone...etc The numbers show UofL's running game took a hit after Perry went down and we all know how much Strong values balance and
being able to run.
Also...yes UofL had some inconsistent play all year...but when are these experts going to acknowledge the youth of this team. The underclassmen in key roles. This isn't CBB were underclassmen come in and dominate and leave, this is football. Players like Teddy and Clowney at USCaro are serious exceptions to the rule. Herbslut just showed how truly uninformed the 'experts' at ESPN truly are.
Texas Card, one of your best-ever posts. This is a young team with, literally, no ceiling in sight.
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In fairness, an OSU player (did he graduate or just go for the free tats?) would know that they can't beat the $ec.
But the BE isn't the Big 10, 11, 13, 14, . . . (1-9 in past ten Rose Bowls, losing 9 to academic schools - insert raucous laughter here !)
Great time to be a Cardinal, and getting better!
Herbstriet shamed himself.
That's the best you can say about that poor man.
Just for the record...
-it was a punt block return vs ULL, not a simple punt return
-they played the 2nd string QB vs Jax St, so I really don't see the shame in 23-0 there
This was a very good Florida team who got beat by a better team. I don't buy the "let down" argument of it because Florida went 11-1 in the season which included beating good teams and some bad teams. Either way the coach and the player's mindset has to be play every game hard and respect every team. Florida did that all season long...They ran into a buzz saw with Bridgewater who threw bullseye pin point passes all night and didn't have an answer for it bottom line. The Florida safeties covered our receivers well in this game it was just Teddy was on his game and those passes had to be perfect where He threw them and they were.
Also, the "let down" argument doesn't play with me either from the standpoint you want to carry over a big victory into the next season so that you can make a case of being ranked high preseason to compete for the national title. Any coach will tell you that part of being able to compete for the BCS title starts from how you produced from the year before to put your program into that contention. One of several ways to motivate the program to win the game.
Yes, my mistake. It was a blocked punt for a TD.
In regards to Jacksonville State, only ONE school they played this year failed to score at least 23 on them, and that was SE Missouri St. But EKU (51 points), Chattanooga (24 pts), Tennessee Tech (28 pts), Eastern Illinois (31 pts), Tennessee St (28 pts), Murray St (35 pts), Tennessee Martin (49 pts) all managed to score more than Florida, regardless of WHO was the starting QB for the gators. I would hope that the gators second string can still do better than all of the schools listed above.
Why was Florida so interested in the FSU game if they couldn't go to the MNCG anyway?
Herby makes the same fatal flaw that a lot of analysts and fans do. They seem to think that the Louisville's, Boise States, TCU's etc are filled with 2* and under talent that none of the "big boys" wanted. Truth is, look at our roster and you'll find guys that the big boys offered and wanted. Teddy was on everybody's wish list. Devante Parker ignored dozens of letters from Nick Saban, Lorenzo Mauldin had high offers, Deon Rogers had offers from UGA, FSU, LSU, etc. B.J. Butler had offers from Bama, UF, UGA. Deiontrez Mount big offers, Michaelee Harris big offers, Calvin Pryor big offers, Keith Brown, James Burgess, Sheldon Rankin, DeAngelo Brown, the list goes on and on. People failed to realize our talent because of struggles and the lack of leadership. I think the Rutgers game and now this game have addressed those issues. We have gamebreakers at QB, RB, WR, CB/S, and LB. We're missing that game changer at DT. I truly think that will be the final piece.
Agree on all points there.
Herbie is a SEC fanboy and espn's puppet to talk them up. His,"Big Bad Big East." Comment showed his lack of knowledge about this team. Hopefully he realizes that the Cards are legit now. I've made sure to remind him of it on twitter. You can tell that he must be getting bombarded by other Cards fans, judging by his last few tweets towards Cards fans.
Wife and I were in the 2nd row end zone on Florida end. When Herby walked by he told the Fla boosters not to worry, the gators had this game in the bag. I wish he would have came back by after the game. I'll take CCS walking down our end with the worlds biggest smile instead.
He's either a lazy dumb@$$ that didn't do his homework or he's a biased, agenda driven a-hole. I'll let him earch his soul and choose which he really is. I wasn't proclaiming that we were going to win, but I was absolutely sure that we could. Anyone who didn't see Florida's weaknesses and a scenario where UofL beats them doesn't know much about football.
OSU fans don't even like Herbstreit. F**k him. F**k ESPN. We gave them all a nice big shitburger to eat. None of them showed any respect. This slobbering over the $EC has reached insane proportions to the point where I hope Alabama gets smoked. I'm just tired of hearing about the mighty SEC. Come out and punch them in the mouth like we did and see how mighty they really are when a team refuses to roll over.
It is the staet of Jacksonville, duh. Right next to the states of Bliss and Ignorance.
A simple question: is your butt jealous of the amount crap coming from your mouth?
I sh1t you not, I knew a girl that did that and got almost everyone of em right!
Yea, we really got ran off the field you dipshit!
Louisville's win over Florida - 2013 Sugar Bowl
Kirk Herbstreit, how does Louisville's ass taste? Laugh at the Cardinals now, asshole.
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