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There is a difference between seeing that there is immediate PT to be won, and demanding that immediate PT be given. From Hatcher's own mouth, Stoops told him that he would start at DE. No way CCS would make that promise to this class or his first class.
I appreciate that you want to defend Hatcher, but you are on the wrong board for that.
From what Hatcher said on TV yesterday, he said Stoops said he "could" start at WDE if he came to camp and worked the way they expected him to. He said "I intend to do that."
Not much different than the guys who came here over other programs.
You guys are getting the Context of the sentences wrong!!! Stoops said You can start here and CCS said you can come in and compete for a spot in the rotation!
Those are completely different words..That was the Main Reason why He went to KY nothing to do with the Staff or School Facilities.
He did not want to compete in Louisville as He knows there is a rotation of 8-9 in the dl,Plain and simple.
Hatcher got to a fork in the road in Lexington on NSD in which his choices were Oblivion and Obscurity. Not sure which one he picked, but his zip code is now 40506.
Cardsource is EXACTLY right - Stoops promised Hatcher he would start. Coach Strong would not promise him that. Hatcher chose UK because of this promise.
Bottom Line Diamondcard and His source were 100% on The Money!!! Did He wear a Blue Tie?
This post was edited by Cardsource 14 months ago
Interesting thing about this whole thing is that Lamar Dawson was the advicate for him to not go to USC. He felt like USC was a going down and Lamar himself is going to try his hand at the NFL after next season. At that time he had already eliminated UL. So he took Lamar Dawson's advice on not going to USC. He could have reopened his recruitment with UL but for whatever reason he didn't.
He didn't re-open his recruitment with Louisville because he refused to WORK for playing time as a true frosh. Coach Strong wasn't going to hand him ANYTHING on a silver platter. Therefore, he sacrificed being a LOSER for playing time.
Here is the big difference between UK and UL right now. UL can field a DLine of all returning players and have bodies behind those guys. UK cannot. UK can field the 2 Defensive Tackles but UK can't field the DE's at all. Why? Because we played a 3-4 defense last 2 years and because of that the only able body we have that could play WDE is Bud Dupree and Stoops just said in an interview that he wants to keep Dupree at LB. So if that happens who plays DE?
If you are a recruit and you've got 2 teams recruiting you and one team (Team A) has able bodies at your position and the other team (Team B) has absolutely 0 bodies at your position and you aren't a fan of either of them, thus having no favortism towards one or the other, what would you do?
I get your point, but I would go to the place where I get the most national exposure (preseason top 10 team, UofL), the better chance at success on the field (UofL), and the best path to reach my long term goals of the NFL (UofL).
When asked about playing time, why is it not acceptable for a coach to say "Son, the best players start on my teams. If/when you are the best player at your position, you'll start. The question is do you want that challenge? You should come to a practice and see who we have at your position. It's up to you to decide."
How is that not ALWAYS the answer to the PT question?
This post was edited by JunkYardCard 14 months ago
Well, in the 20 years or so since the $EC expanded to 12 teams, 9 of them have played in the conference championship game. Only Ole Miss (once one play away), Vandy, and UK haven't. 7 of those programs have won the $EC championship game, and Arkansas basically blew one or it would be 8. That's a pretty wide-open conference!
Auburn signed the right recruit and had a one-year-wonder of a season to win the conference, including a win over a Bama team coach by Saban that had a huge lead on them.
Adding Missouri and A&M may seem to make the conference tougher, but it seemingly made it easier for UGA to make it to the $EC title game this year - where they ended-up a few yards from beating Saban and Bama. Teams in the east will play Bama, LSU, etc, less often now.
UK has had plenty of opportunities to snake bite the conference, and they've failed.
Yeah but players sometimes don't think in terms of that. Look at Ole Miss, Vandy, Virginia and some of the others that really don't get that exposure but recruited very well....
I used that scenario because I mayself played football in JUCO in California and coming out my choices of schools was Southern Cal, Missouri, Purdue, Tulsa, SMU, Houston and a host of other schools. I took my official visit to Southern Cal and those guys were talking about how much they wanted me but I noticed that they had High School All-Americans backing up High School All-Americans that was my size at DE (6-6 275lbs). So I immediatly crossed them off of my list. I ended up going to Tulsa and playing for Coach Kragthorpe. I wasn't scared to compete against the other USC DE's, I just wanted the best shot possible to make it to the NFL. The NFL will find you no matter where you play football at but they can evaluate you better if you get 40 snaps a game than they can when you are getting 20 snaps a game. So it wasn't a gamble to me but sort of an insurance policy. It paid off. I don't know Jason Hatcher so I dont' know what was going through his mind but something similar could have been going through his mind. who knows. Its not always about a player being scared to compete there are other factors at play.
A UK fan who played under Steve Kragthorpe BEFORE he took the Louisville job.
You have to be the only one of those in existence, lol. An upvote for you, for the simple fact that you had to endure that miserable oaf.
Bezzle around that time I went to a ton of UL Football games and was on the side lines and went to practice and all that jazz. I was actually going to become a graduate assistant at UL and then Coach K got fired.
I can tell you this... It was a great opportunity for me to become a grad assistant at UL because it would have jump started my coaching career if I went in that direction. But when Coach K took the job I had my reserved feelings about it. At Tulsa Coach K had the title of Head Coach but it was really Coach Graham http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Graham that ran the show.... When Ron English came in I thought that he would be the "Coach Graham" for Coach K at UL but it didn't happen.
attached is Coach Grahams Wiki page so you'd know who I'm talking about.
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