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This is huge news. ACC has locked up fsu, vtech and others. The big 12 can not stay at 10. They have been waiting on notre dame and didnt want to do anything to prevent them from coming. We will be in the big 12
It's 50 mil exit fee now. We're not paying that
Ditto. I'd much rather be an ACC member.
If you can't change the people around you....change the people around you.
The ACC won't be at 50 million unless all teams sign the new deal. If not, it will be 20 million exit fee..
Still though has to be good for us with the B12 and potentially the ACC...
That's the ACC exit fee...
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Big 12 strategy was not to do anything to jeopardize Notre Dame possibility. With Irish off the board, is league really content at 10?
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That strategy sure worked out well for them didn't it.
I'm beginning to wonder if our on field success/revenue ability is actually hurting us here. As others have noted our Athletic Budget is larger than any team in the ACC. I honestly am beginning to wonder if some Big12, ACC or other teams don't want more competition. They want TV sets without the tougher competition (ND in a nutshell).
No one outside the program thought we would compete when we went to the Big East and lo & behold only the Irish could hold a candle to us in total athletic success since we joined. Fact is - even with the mess of Krags - we OWNED the Big East since joining and I think those other teams are nervous about asking a contender. Look at all the big conference moves that have happened as of late. None of them are threats to the conference heirarchy (save maybe WVU this year in football).
Colorado? Not exactly dominant in anything.
Nebraska? Wrong side of the Big 12, haven't been a threat since the 90's and isn't competitive in anything else
Pitt, Cuse, WVU? No real threat across all channels. Ironically I think this one back fires on the Big12 as they could win the whole thing in year one (then will you admit the BE had/has talent?)
Mizzou or A&M? Not like the SEC picked off OU or UT did they?
ND? See Nebraska.
I've never been the negative type, but I can't help but wonder if we got it backwards. Maybe we need more TVs and less revenue/potential for success on the field or court.
First of all the ACC just bumped its exit fee to 50 million with this ND announcements, so FSU or nobody else is going to leave and UL is not paying that much to help FSU leave.
I repeat, ACC is still a 14 team football league, they would have to grab 2 schools to be a 16 team league and that would be Rutgers and UConn before us because of academics...plus that puts them at 17 schools in basketball.
Our only option at this point is the B12.....already seeing tweets from Kirk Bohls out of Austin thinking they're done for a long time in expansion because of this.....hopefully he is full of crap.
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Perhaps, but how do we know they haven't already signed off on it? Perhaps it was an informal concession to get ND to take the plunge? I have a funny feeling ND got some mighty strong assurances in hand (like a $50 mil buyout signed by all member institutions?) before making the move.
Plus, if this was a power move by ESPN in response to poorly progressing TV negotiations with the Big East, they might bump up the ACC's deal by more than any of us expect to FURTHER cement the bond. In effect, it gives ESPN another bite at the contract apple AFTER the Big XII has signed its deal. Now, the ACC deal can one-up the Big XIi's deal and they can't do a damn thing do about it (w/o more inventory - which they also just hampered with a 50 mil buyout). Maybe I'm just missing something...
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Could UofL strike the same kind of deal with the ACC as Notre Dame (but obviously for less money?) We join the ACC for all sports except football, and play football as an independent (or we could stay in the watered-down BE for football only). Of course, the ACC guarantees us some minimum amount of football games as a partial member. Then, when Notre Dame becomes a full football member, UofL does as well. I have no idea if the ACC would consider us based on academic imagery, but the fact that we would bring another hoops juggernaut to its conference would have to be intriguing.
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The whale gets harpooned only when it comes to the surface...
i will be glad to be in either Big XII or ACC, just get us there quickly
Why can't the Big XII stay at 10 teams? I'm not saying they won't expand, but I'm genuinely curious why some think they "must" expand to twelve. Other than being wisely pro-active, I'm not sure there is any concrete factor that pressures them to go to twelve. I hope my skepticism is wrong on this point, btw.
Because contrary to public comment they know it will be difficult for them to place a team in the final four. They have to because the other conferences will do everything in their power to exclude them as the weak link. The Big East is dead and they are next on the chopping block of criticism.
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