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Who the hell is that baseline ref?
This post was edited by cardsguy 15 months ago
Nevermind. He doesn't want to be outdone.
This game has nothing to do with the refs. Its atypical week night Big East game. Physical and ragged. Were built for a ground it out game so as long as they dont shoot out of their heads down the stretch I like our odds. This team struggles with leads but they generally figure it all out once they are in a dog fight. Similar to the UK game they will have to remember what got them their lead and go back to it. This isnt on the refs though, this is on our boys. Were gonna see a lot of games called like this one so we may as well get used to it. Theres a reason were always banged up and games like this are exhibit A. The paint is treacherous on both ends of the floor.
You are not watching the same game as the rest of us...if you don't think they are calling some tic tac fouls. Look at how many of Seton Hall's points are actually on the floor.
The refs are choosing to call tic tac fouls at random times. One play they allow contact then the next minute Russ Smith barely bumps a player and they call it.
!st half was a joke. SH shot 21 fts. Called like a middle school game. Bump = foul. Burr makes it a point to make unbelievable calls right in front of RP to get reaction. The 1st half foul on WB was classic. Rick almost sprints to other end of bench to avoid saying anything.
Refs didn't really play a part in this game other than some inconsistent calls. One all though in particular pissed me off. I had to rewind it 3 times to see if I saw it correctly.
When Dieng got called for "tripping" and picked up the foul I noticed Burr made the call and not the baseline ref. This is out of the norm depending on angles and whatnot but I had to do a double take. when Teague fell, Burr blew his whistle but was not looking at the play in that direction. He turned his head when he saw Teague hit the floor. Burr was watching the guard play up top. All he saw was Teague hit the floor and then he blew his whistle.
How do you make a call that you never even saw? He just assumed that Dieng tripped him. Now keep in mind the baseline ref was right there and was watching them. he did not make the call. I had to rewind this a couple of times to see it but Burr was not looking in that direction during the time of the "trip"
All he saw was the end result and assumed what happened.
The 2nd half was a little better, but it was still not consistent. Russ got a foul called for running next to a guy. Not to mention at the end of the first half when Price had position and was ran over. The announcer annoyed me when he said nice no call, then laughed at the idea of a smaller player actually knocking over a bigger player. I didn't know that a players size/weight was a determining factor for a charge call.
The game was much better tonight with the sound off.
The refs ruined the game for me. Worst, most inconsistently called game I've seen in quite a while.
Cards won. On the road. By a lot. Be happy.
I am happy. Posted this during the game though. I know we won, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that the refs were awful. These guys could be factors in future games.
Les Jones is the name.
I guess we might as well remember him. He's an ACC ref too.
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Pitino yelled at Burr about this exactly after the play. Burr just sort of shook his head.
From my vantage point (11 rows up opposite of the team benches), midway through the first half, Louisville was trying to just stay out of foul trouble and not necessarily play basketball. That's also why we had some strange rotations at the end of the second half.
When there were awful foul calls, the players immediately tried to hide their emotions with the hope that they would stop calling such ridiculous fouls. I'm guessing the coaches just said, "let's get to the second half and they'll probably change how they are calling the game."
They may not have "played a part" in the outcome but they sure "played a part" in making it a miserable viewing experience.
The point I was trying to make in my first post was that we see these piss poor officiated games all the time in the big East. For half the game you can tackle someone in the paint and the other half you can breath on them without a whistle. The only consistency in big east officiating is that they are consistently bad. That said we rolled out our C game vs Seton Hall or none of that would matter. Throw in Pitino apparently had a mini stroke and went haywire with his sub patterns and you get that ugly game (that we won by 15).
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