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If I never go on another teams board and see bitching about us fouling all the time it will be too soon.
If they were fouls, the ref's would call them. I was at the game today , and the same refs that were on TV acting stupid were as stupid as they actually were acting in real life. Get it?
It seemed like we were the ones getting called for tic tac fouls today and getting what would be considered assault, in most cities, at the other end of the court. It seemed completely one sided from where I was sitting. That grey haired ref obviously had Colorado St. advancing in his bracket.
Sounds like you went to cats-mena-pause. They are scared to death we are going to win it all over there.
Cards do foul-- its that simple..... If refs let both teams play then we are hard to beat--if they call it tight it is more difficult for us
We don't foul more than any other team. Our guys play great defense. Look at our team and look at other teams in the tournament on how much they get beat off the bounce. Look at how we deny passes. Look at our help defense vs other teams. Look at how we recover on fast breaks vs other teams. Look at how we anticipate passes and know when to slap down at the ball vs other teams.
Our defense is awesome, and it isn't just because of physicality or hacking and clawing.
And it doesn't matter if they call it tight. Foul trouble has not been an issue and I don't know of any remaining teams who has the quality depth that we have.
No, you do. You hack, claw, and bump all the time. But here's the thing: it's a viable strategy that has been employed in college basketball ever since the early 80's (the Big East was really where it started), and it has been emulated by innumerable teams that have been rewarded with success over the years. Everyone from 90's Arkansas, to UK under Pitino, to Duke, to teams like OSU, VCU, Butler, Wisconsin, Michigan St, etc.
If a team gets a reputation that they are a 'physical' defensive team, they will be allowed to bump and claw and hack much more so than a team that played a different defensive style. And it's for a simple reason -- much to the tinfoil hat crowd's disappointment, refs don't WANT to slow down games and turn them into whistle-fests. And the NCAA, unlike the NBA, has not enacted rule changes in order to minimize that brand of basketball. Hence the seemingly exponential increase of teams and coaches in the past 10-20 yrs that have implemented this physical style and experienced success with it.
I personally think that the pendulum has swung too far into the contact sport realm when it comes to college basketball. But that's just a personal preference. Those folks that understand how the game is currently played will succeed. And those that don't understand will fail unless they are just incredibly offensively talented.
if you think we foul and play physical every play then go watch Craft on OSU. That kid is a hack machine.
Indeed he is.
As is the rest of OSU's team.
It's Matta's chosen style.
He just went 100 minutes without being called for a foul.
Sounds a lot like Jay Wright & Jon Calipari when it comes to whining about how Louisville defends. Meanwhile, their guys bump, grab, undercut, pull, and push every cutter away from the ball which also isn't called. I also enjoyed how CSU was able to make contact just about every time Louisville drove the lane, which also wasn't called.
If you watch the whole game & not just ball action, you'll see almost every team is far more 'physical' than you may think.
But I'm sure those who argue are correct, Louisville would currently be on at least a 5 game losing streak if they weren't allowed to play so rough against all these pure finesse ballet squads they have faced.
BCS win, Women's Final 4/National runner-up, Men's Final 4/National title, trip to College World Series. Excellence like no other before.
I personally don't know why fans are so reticent to admit that their team plays with a physical brand of defense. Do they think that it implies that their team is somehow cheating? It's a matter of accepting and embracing how the game is played and officiated. It doesn't invalidate their accomplishments. And, as has been mentioned by other posters in this thread, there are NUMEROUS teams (hell, entire conferences -- B1G anyone?) that play physically in college basketball nowadays. I think the only reason folks might spend a little more time talking about Louisville in this regard is simple -- they employ it in the full-court, whereas most teams don't have the personnel to do it in anything more than the halfcourt.
Physical & frenetic are not the same. Louisville plays far more frenetic than they do physical. Opposing coaches try to paint the picture of Louisville being an overly aggressive, physical defensive team. If you really watch what they do, they are really not much more physical than most teams.
Is Louisville complaining about their guys getting pushed down & called for a travel, or pushed across half-court & called for a backcourt violation? No, but that indeed happened, among many other examples of physical contact Louisville has dealt w/ from their opponents in recent games.
If all contact was called, would Louisville rack up more fouls? Certainly; but let's not fool ourselves into believing many of their opponents wouldn't as well.
This post was edited by tville 13 months ago
Its all wishful thinking hoping to find a chink in the Cardinal armour. If UL does pull out this championship this year somehow..its going to be HAPPY DAYS for CARDS fans!
Marcus Smart: “And that's very disappointing, because this team, we decided to establish our identity as one of the toughest teams in the Big 12 and the country." OKST fans bragged about their physicality.
Antonio Gonzales: "Even though they may not always match the physical prowess and natural abilities of their opponents, the Billikens bully and bruise teams all over the floor."
Dana O'Neil: "Afterward, Butler’s Roosevelt Jones marveled at Dwayne Evans. Evans doesn’t look like much when he’s standing in front of you, but Jones, no slouch in the tough-guy department, nonetheless labeled Evans "the most physical guy I’ve played in my life." Jones’ coach stretched that compliment to the entire Saint Louis team, calling Billikens the most physical team Butler has faced all season."
Keep talking about your high physicality--seems to be a lucky rabbit's foot for my ducks.
This is an absolutely terrific thread.
People are pissed because not only do we do it better than anyone else - and extend the floor in doing so - but we may be doing it better than anyone else ever has. That's a force out there, not some "college defense". It is controlled Chaos run by guys who know what they are doing, tweaked by a master at the top of his game.
It's going to take one hell of a ballclub to beat us, playing one hell of a game. That's all I know.
"There is an eloquence in true enthusiasm."
Edgar Allen Poe
Do all Ducks have poor reading comprehension abilities?
Hey. That took a little while to find those quotes. And you shitting on the post of a fan who checks into your site and posts a pretty innocuously playful message...
are all louisville fans dicks?
No. They're not. And I don't like rhetoricals anyway.
This post was edited by die yankees die 13 months ago
I loved your post, lol. All it did was verify the ones which proceeded it. You are also saying it shouldn't matter to the Ducks - which it shouldn't.
You aren't crying, in short, which is refreshing.
This post was edited by senore 13 months ago
Nope. If my team gets out muscled I'll give props, not bitchings.
And the ducks sort of police themselves, even resorting to thuggery on occasion. We have 2 technicals in the NCAA tourney so far, and 2 more in the pac-12 tourney.
Tony Woods and Austin Waverly are mean. Like elbow-to-the-back-of-the-head, one-game-suspension mean.
So wait a minute. Folks are complaining about our defensive style?
I will counter that the officiating allows it because they cannot call fouls properly. C. Iverson would have fouled out in 5 minutes the way he sets screens. There have been offensive fouls NOT called on the screener than I have witnessed this year.
If they do not call it, you have to fight over it. And yes that does lead to some physical hands on part of the game.
A simple question: is your butt jealous of the amount crap coming from your mouth?
Dude, don't kid yourself. We know Tony Woods.
We are not impressed with the guy. We know him quite well.
And that is what you get with experienced ball clubs.
Don't kid myself? You know Tony Woods? Sorry I didn't know lousville fans follow pac-12 basketball and crappy ACC teams.
I didn't say the guy was amazing or anything. All I said is he's taken on a sort of enforcer role and has been known to deliver flagrants and worse.
But I won't kid myself. Kid myself. You lousville guys sure have some swagger--I'll give you that. I guess it's merited by your number 1 seed.
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